That may not be what conservatives want, but I consider that about as much of a travesty as “liberals” wanting abortion to be legal. So essentially, I want to go “both…and” rather than one or the other.

I agree re: McCain. Hence why I am not voting. If RP had been in there, I might have voted, but I’m not comfortable enough with anyone else.

Sociological ills–my terminology probably isn’t exact, but what I’m getting at are systemic societal problems. E.g., the endless cycle of poverty, lack of education, etc. Problems that are widespread in society and that are part of a vicious cycle that won’t end without intentional community and societal effort.

The point being that studies have linked the numbers of abortions with levels of poverty, education, etc. Not that middle to upper class people don’t have abortions, but that poverty and lack of education often contribute to the motives behind abortions. So we must deal with those societal problems.

Blessings, bro.

It’s good to see that you still have time for this while you’re over there.

Miller’s point about trying to reduce abortions instead of winning a moral victory was interesting, but I don’t think that’s what conservatives want. So, I would agree with your third point.

However, the ban on partial birth abortion under Bush is one of his few great accomplishments. Frankly, we won’t see that under McCain, no matter that Palin is on board. Third party man – it’s the way to go.

How do you define/categorize sociological ills?

Anyways, I’ll see you soon(er).

-Cameron

I definitely like it that there is such a public opportunity to try reconcile with Muslims and have a potentially less tense environment for witnessing.